UCRÂNIA - Radar mostra outro avião.

Radar mostra outro avião perto do MH17, diz Rússia

Jornal GGN -  Em um relatório detalhado sobre os últimos momentos do voo MH17 da Malaysia Airlines, o Ministério da Defesa da Rússia destacou que radares do países detectaram uma outra aeronave na região pouco antes da queda. O chefe da força aérea russa, Igor Makushev, através de imagens de radares e satélites, afirmou que é possível que o segundo avião fosse um caça ucraniano. Ele também mostrou imagens de satélite daquilo que seriam  sistemas de mísseis terra-ar na região onde o avião caiu, e disse que os sistemas só poderiam pertencer ao exército da Ucrânia. Makushev ainda informou que o MH17 desviou de sua rota por 14 quilômetros.

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Rússia diz que radar mostra outro avião junto ao MH17

O Ministério da Defesa da Rússia apresentou hoje seu primeiro relato detalhado sobre os momentos finais do voo MH17, da Malaysia Airlines, destacando que os radares russos localizaram uma segunda aeronave na região pouco antes da tragédia. As imagens de satélite, de acordo com a Rússia, mostram que a Ucrânia movimentou seu sistema de mísseis para a área antes do incidente.

 

Em coletiva de imprensa, o chefe da força aérea, Igor Makushev, não comentou quem seria o responsável pelo míssil que supostamente abateu o avião na última quinta-feira. Entretanto, a versão apresentada combina com a mensagem transmitida pela televisão estatal russa nos últimos dias na qual a Ucrânia é acusada de ter derrubado a aeronave, possivelmente a partir de um avião de caça.

 

Autoridades ucranianas e ocidentais disseram que detêm evidências que apontam os rebeldes pró-Rússia como responsáveis pela queda do avião da Malaysia Airlines, possivelmente com um sistema de mísseis fornecido pela Rússia. Moscou nega.

 

Com o apoio de uma elaborada apresentação de imagens de radares e satélites, Makushev afirmou que é provável que o segundo avião fosse um caça ucraniano. Ele também mostrou fotos de satélite retratando supostamente vários sistemas de mísseis terra-ar Buk na área perto de onde o avião caiu. Os sistemas, segundo ele, só poderiam pertencer ao exército ucraniano. A Ucrânia, por sua vez, acusa a Rússia de ter dado aos rebeldes um sistema Buk, com o qual eles teriam derrubado o avião de passageiros.

 

Segundo, Makushev o avião da Malaysia Airlines se desviou de seu curso por 14 quilômetros, mas pouco antes de cair tentou voltar à rota original. Ele afirmou que a Rússia está preparada para entregar toda a informação que detém às autoridades europeias, o que inclui imagens de satélite e dados de seus próprios radares. Fonte: Dow Jones Newswires.

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Russia Says Has Photos Of Ukraine Deploying BUK Missiles In East, Radar Proof Of Warplanes In MH17 Vicinity

Ukraine hasn’t said how it immediately knew rebels downed Malaysian plane, notes the Russian Foreign Ministry, as it unveils 10 awkward questions for Ukraine (and perhaps the US 'snap judgment') to answer about the MH17 disaster. However, what is perhaps more concerning for the hordes of finger-pointers is that:

• RUSSIA HAS IMAGES OF UKRAINE DEPLOYING BUK ROCKETS IN EAST: IFX
• RUSSIA: UKRAINE MOVED BUK NEAR REBELS IN DONETSK JULY 17: IFX
• RUSSIA DETECTED UKRAINIAN FIGHTER JET PICK UP SPEED TOWARD MH17

Obviously, if there is proof that this is so, aside from CIA-created YouTube clips, these would deal another unpleasant blow to US foreign policy.

The Russian defense ministry during its press conference which concluded minutes ago:

Here is the full clip of the Russian ministry releasing its own forensic analysis of what happened to flight MH17 (with English translation).

Russia wants to know why Ukraine moved its BUK missiles systems the day of the MH17 crash:

• RUSSIAN GENERAL STAFF HAS SPACE IMAGES OF SECTORS OF UKRAINIAN FORCES' POSITIONS IN SOUTHEASTERN UKRAINE, INCLUDING BUK MISSILE LUNCH SITES 8 KILOMETERS FROM LUHANSK - RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTRY - interfax

The day the Malaysian airliner crashed, the Ukrainian forces deployed an air defense group of three or four Buk-M1 missile batteries near Donetsk, Lt. Gen. Andrei Kartapolov, head of the Russian General Staff's Main Operations Department, told reporters on Monday.

"These surface-to-air systems are capable of hitting targets at a distance of up to 35 kilometers at an altitude of 22 kilometers. For what purpose and against whom were these missile systems deployed? As is known, the militia has no aviation," he said.

Russia has the flight paths of the Ukrainian fighters and MH17. Furthermore, it is asking the same question we asked last Thurday:

• RUSSIA SAYS MH17 DIVERGED 14 KM FROM FLIGHT PATH NEAR DONETSK

And wants to know why. The image (as seen in the presentation above) allegedly shows Ukraine fighter jets near MH17:

Here is a screengrab of a Su-25 fighter jet detected close to MH17 before crash.

As RT reports,

“A Ukraine Air Force military jet was detected gaining height, it’s distance from the Malaysian Boeing was 3 to 5km,” said the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the HQ of Russia’s military forces, Lieutenant-General Andrey Kartopolov speaking at a media conference in Moscow on Monday.

“[We] would like to get an explanation as to why the military jet was flying along a civil aviation corridor at almost the same time and at the same level as a passenger plane,” he stated.

“The SU-25 fighter jet can gain an altitude of 10km, according to its specification,” he added. “It’s equipped with air-to-air R-60 missiles that can hit a target at a distance up to 12km, up to 5km for sure.”

The presence of the Ukrainian military jet can be confirmed by video shots made by the Rostov monitoring center, Kartopolov stated.

And asks for US proof of their accusations:

• RUSSIA SAYS U.S. SATELLITE FLEW OVER MH17 AT TIME IT WAS DOWNED... which would provide all the proof needed to show who is responsible  - so why hasn't the US explained this or shown it? 
• RUSSIA ASKS U.S. FOR EVIDENCE ROCKET FIRED FROM REBEL-HELD AREA
• RUSSIA: NO U.S. PROOF THAT MISSILE FIRED FROM REBEL-HELD AREA
• DEFENCE MINISTRY SAYS RUSSIA DID NOT DELIVER ANY SA-11 BUK MISSILE SYSTEMS TO SEPARATISTS IN EASTERN UKRAINE "OR ANY OTHER WEAPONS"

And went on to rebuke all the Twitter photos created by Maidan to 'prove' the BUKs were moving in Russian hands.

Summing it all up, the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, has 10 questions for Ukraine (google translated)

The global public expects a speedy and independent investigation into the causes of the disaster Malaysian aircraft in the airspace of Ukraine.

In order to conduct an objective investigation of possible leadership of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has ased ten questions to the Ukrainian side.

1. Ukrainian authorities immediately identified the militia as the perpetrators of the tragedy. What is the basis of such findings?

2. Could official Kiev to report all the details of using [BUKs] in a war zone? Most importantly - why these systems are deployed there, as the militia no planes?

3. What are the causes of inactivity of Ukrainian authorities on the formation of an international commission? When such a committee will work?

4. Are the armed forces of Ukraine international experts to present papers on accounting for missiles, air-to-air and ground-to-air ammo and anti-aircraft missiles?

5. Whether these funds objective control on the movement of the Ukrainian Air Force aircraft on the day of the tragedy brought international commission?

6. Why Ukrainian air traffic controllers allowed deviation of the route of the aircraft to the north side of the "anti-terrorist operation zone"?

7. Why was not completely closed to civilian aircraft airspace over the combat zone, especially because in this area there was no solid field of radar navigation?

8. Could official Kiev to comment on reports in the net, ostensibly on behalf of the Spanish air traffic controllers working in Ukraine, which shot down over the territory of Ukraine "Boeing" was accompanied by two Ukrainian military aircraft?

9. Why Security Service of Ukraine has begun without international representatives work with recordings of talks with Ukrainian crew dispatchers "Boeing" and Ukrainian radar data?

10. How were the lessons from previous similar disasters Russian Tu-154 in 2001 in the Black Sea? Then the leaders of Ukraine until the last minute denied any involvement of the Armed Forces of the country to the tragedy until irrefutable evidence showed no guilt official Kiev.

Unfortunately, there has been no response by the Ukraine side to these questions so far. We expect that there will be some answers.

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Needless to say, this places Ukraine and The US (as main protagonist of "finger pointer") in an awkward position as finally someone, somewhere will have to present some actual facts instead of merely continuing the "emotional appeals" propaganda.

We expect many of these questions to be answered once the contents of flight MH17's black box are revealed and/or when Ukraine finally releases an undoctored version of the Air Traffic control recording with the doomed flight.